Luxury Forgotten Coast

May 14, 2026 00:37:22
Luxury Forgotten Coast
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Luxury Forgotten Coast

May 14 2026 | 00:37:22

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Luke Carl is joined by January Johnson to explore investment opportunities along Florida’s Forgotten Coast, focusing on the rapidly growing areas of Windmark Beach and Sugar Sand. They break down why these quieter beach markets are attracting investors looking for lower entry prices, appreciation potential, and a slower-paced alternative to crowded destinations like 30A. The conversation covers everything from new D.R. Horton construction and realistic rental revenue expectations to luxury appreciation plays near Mexico Beach, while also highlighting how infrastructure improvements like Cape San Blas beach renourishment could impact future demand and property values.

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[00:00:02] Speaker A: Welcome to Short Term Shopping where we explore homes for sale in the best vacation markets in America. Some homes we do like, some homes we don't like. Brought to you by the Short Term Shop. It's Short Term Shopping. Welcome to Short Term Shopping. We're in Florida with one of my favorite people. January Johnson is here. [00:00:32] Speaker B: Likewise. [00:00:33] Speaker A: You're so fabulous and just lovely to be around. So thank you. And we're going to talk today specifically about the Forgotten coast for two reasons. Number one, there's a lot of kind of, you know, I hate to say inexpensive, but maybe lower price per square foot building going on in that area. And then also they've just renourished the beach out on the Cape. So let me refresh everybody's memory here. And then we're going to dive into some, some properties, going to shop for some houses. So let's see what we have here. Let's take a look at Google Maps, nice and easy. And oh, there's the Cape. Okay, so we'll zoom out a little bit and we've got all the way up here to there's Alabama. Okay. And then this is the beautiful, beautiful, beautiful emerald coast, which is where January and I are sitting right now in various sections of that area. And then today we're going to talk about down here when we start to kind of turn the corner and get into the again like January said a minute ago. Well, you didn't hear that, but we were talking about eastern time zone. [00:01:39] Speaker B: Yes. [00:01:39] Speaker A: Which happens here, which everybody's always shocked by the fact that I live in Florida and I'm in central time zone. [00:01:47] Speaker B: Yes. I have to tell somebody about once a week that we have two time zones. [00:01:51] Speaker A: It is rather mind blowing that the easternmost state of the southern, you know, southern portion of the United States is central, has central time zone. But when you look at it on a map, it's under, you know, I mean it's, it's, it's under Memphis basically. Or maybe not quite that far, but yeah, it is, it's like east of or west of Nashville for sure. Which Nashville is a central time zone. Anyway, let's get back down here. So wanted to mention the renourishment of Cape Sandblast. I used to own a house here, sold it last year actually. And they have fixed the beach now that's from the rocks like right in this area up to about halfway up. They have renourished the beach. And I don't have an exact map here. I do have some pictures, but it'd be a pain to Go back and forth on those. The beach comes way. Sorry about all this click stuff here. The beach comes way further out now. They did have a problem with the beach kind of eroding and going away. And there was a couple of houses that were in danger, they were in danger of losing the home. Actually. This is, this is way too far north for what I'm talking about. But way down here in this area. This beach now comes out much further. They've renourished, which is something normal that all major beaches, at least in our area do on a regular basis. We see them as a matter of fact, they're doing it right now on the, the far, the far end of Destin and a certain HOA doing their beach right now. But this area had not done this since 2018 and it was starting to get a little bit stressful, maybe even dangerous to some of these folks with their houses like right out in the water. But they fixed that problem and now we have this big beautiful beach that's coming way out in this area here, maybe even to here. And it's something to keep an eye on. You know, it's going to definitely affect buyers and sellers to a certain extent. Might see a little action out there now. So that's something to keep an eye on. And again, the, the new construction stuff is happening kind of up in here and that's a lot of Dr. Horton stuff, which I'm actually, I have two Dr. Hortons under contract right now. They're not new. They were like 21 builds and the sellers already bought a new house. These were primary homes, not short term rental markets. This is a metro long term rental situation. Seller moved out, bought another house. They're paying two mortgages they can't sell because Dr. Horton is still building right down the street. And they can give 4% interest rate on a new one or whatever Dr. Horton's doing these days. They always have very low interest for first time buyers. And if they want to buy, if you want to buy the used house, you got to pay regular interest rate at 6 and a half percent or whatever it is. So I'm finding some deals in that, in that and that whatever the word I'm looking for. Ring Arena. That's the word in that arena. But anyway, I'll turn it over to January now and let her do her thing and kind of give us his speech. And January, I guess first tell us a little bit about you. [00:04:54] Speaker B: All right. Hi everybody. January Johnson. I am an emerald and forgotten coast agent for the short term shop. I cover From Destin to Cape sandblast, it's about 100 miles, two time zones and about five counties. So I'm riding the roads several days a week back and forth, helping people in all those little micro markets there. So I want to focus today on two areas of the forgotten coast. One of them is Windmark beach, which is primarily a Dr. Horton build community, although there are some areas that have more custom and kind of semi custom homes. And then I also want to talk about a fancy up and coming area called Sugar Sand. And Sugar sand is a baby 30A every. You know, there's lots of people. A lot of my clients are like, hey, we love 30A. We love visiting down here. Our budget is not a 30A budget. And so I tell people about this, this area, Sugar Sand. So I'll save that for last and show you some really cool stuff there. We're going to talk about Dr. Horton's Windmark beach first. So let's share my screen here. Here we go. All right. Windmark beach and Sugar Sand. So where is Windmark Beach? So if you're looking at the map over here to the right, then you can see Mexico beach at the top. And down here is where we're talking about for Windmark Beach. Here's an inset map that's a little bit bigger. You can tell by where the Cape comes out right here. So part of it is north of the Cape, right? Right this way. And then it continues down here. So we really have three different sections of Windmark Beach. It's different from St. Joe Beach. This is still short term rental friendly. It's just not part of the area that I'm talking about right now. So Windmark beach there, they actually moved Highway 98 around this Windmark beach. There's an old 98 road that comes down here and it's all, it's blocked off to regular traffic. It's only for golf carts and bikes and people walking. And so it makes a nice recreational area. And the reason that I like this area, I've sold a couple houses here recently. Two in the past couple of months, one about two years ago. And I've got several buyers looking here is prices are super good and people like this area because, and I put this in air quotes, there's nothing to do here. There's not the big family attractions like Ripley's Believe it or not and water parks and Goofy Golf, but families love that. It feels like summer camp at the beach. You know, like you can lay in your hammock and read a Book or have an adult beverage and walk down to the bay with your dog. Have a, have a bonfire on the beach and it's really super cool. So, so let's see, here are some, and this is just a screenshot of listings but I put this in some, some order where you can see prices. And I'm talking about $499,000 for a four bedroom, two bath house. Okay, 585,499, 539. All of these. This one's one of the top is a five, three. So this one has a mother in law suite or a bigger, another bedroom and a dining room. You know there's, there's several different floor plans of that and the prices are very good. You can see some of them are brand new construction and you know will be unfurnished obviously go for a little bit less. Some of them are resale properties. So this one down here has a golf cart. But the prices are really, really good and people are doing in gross revenue well managed, let me say well managed properties are doing between 65 and 85,000. I do have a buyer who is going to approach 100,000 in her four bedroom, two bath this year but she is really hands on and dialed in. So there's a lot to love about this area. It's very short term rental friendly. You can walk down to the bay. There's lovely community pools. There's a few properties that have lots big enough to have a pool but most of them don't. So just let the HOA pay for that. Here's kind of an overview of the map. And this is the area called Fisherman's Village in here. So there's some shops, there's some restaurants. It again it's very low key. It's not, you know, it's not going to be super crowded and super crazy. This area over here is very more of the semi custom homes and then some Dr. Horton builds. But this area over here is the Dr. Horton newer construct and they are continuing to build. This map isn't even as updated as it needs to be. This is old Highway 98. So this is the place where you can you know, walk and bike and do all that. And these are the boardwalks down to the bay. So there's multiple places where you can. And a lot of these houses have boardwalks that go down to a central boardwalk and then you can go straight down to the bay in here. So it just gives you kind of a vibe. And I've got a few pictures. So here's A actual photograph of the, of the downtown, little downtown area with the shops and things. You can see the water. It's, it's. And you can see past here, this is the cape and how the cape comes around. So it really protects the bay in here. And they're not going to be big waves that knock down your little kids. And you know that you have to worry about super double red flag conditions and all that kind of thing. There's good parking, here's a big community pool. It's very lovely and, and it's just a nice, nice area in here. This is what a boardwalk would look like down to the bay. It is blue, green water. It's not quite the same as PCB and Destin, but it is, you know, bay going into our gulf, going into the bay, still white sands, still, you know, nice and calm. All of that really, really good. Here's a better aerial shot of it. And then there's houses along here. People love this because it's quiet and there's not the crowds that there are in 30A and DES in and PCB. Now some people like that, some people don't. It just depends. So here's an example of a new build. This is a new construction four bedroom, two bath home that has two bedrooms downstairs and two bedrooms upstairs. Here's the floor plan for that. This is a new layout for Dr. Horton. They've got a little back patio back here, covered porch. You can do different add ons, you can screen in the porch. You can upgrade finishes if you get them in the construction process. And you know, for homes that already have the walls up and the drywall in, it's just a matter of a couple of weeks before they can get them finished for you. So if you want a brand new construction, you can get a brand new construction under $500,000 for sure. So let's see here is. This is. Sorry for the blurry picture. This is some air DNA data that I pulled on properties in Windmark Beach. And you can see that this particular property is a 4, 2 and this is a high performer doing 100, almost $103,000 with even a little bit more room in the revenue potential over here. So I have pulled a few high performers. One of the things that drives me crazy as a realtor is when buyers insist on getting rental history on a property. I understand that that's the number that you want to look at, but rental history is not a material fact of the property. It is a fact of the manager of that property. And you know if, if it's just vacation home and they're renting it every now and then, then the rental history is not going to be great. So don't pin your analysis of this property on what the current manager or the current owner is doing. There's a lot of reasons why it could be low, or in some cases, there's no rental history at all. That doesn't mean that this property can't do rental, you know, can't do a great rental. Here's another one a little bit lower, but still a 42 doing $87,000. If you bought this for 500,000 and put 50 grand in the furniture, you're still doing really great on this property here. So there are some good deals to be had. And I encourage you to go on to Airbnb and read the reviews and see what people like about this area. Again, very golf cart friendly right down to the bay. Beach access is just, you know, walking over a boardwalk. So it's, it's super, super convenient. And then there's a lot of day trips that you can do from here. You can go to Apalachicola, which we call Appalachia. You can go over to the Cape for the day. You can go into Mexico beach. You can go to Port St. Joe downtown. There are some cute little restaurants over there. But it's not a super overgrown, overpopulated area. It is up and coming, and so are the rents, and so is the community. So I advise people, if you're looking for something up and coming, to take a look at this and to get in now, because I'm telling you, five years from now, people are going to say, man, remember when we didn't buy that house for $500,000, that's now 750 or 800 or whatever. And I'm just going to say, I told you so, because, you know, it's, it's the place everybody wants to get in on the up and coming. But you might, you know, at first you, you might have to wait out a year of, you know, figuring out the rents and figuring out the community, and then you're going to really do a lot better there. So don't, don't overlook this area at all. Luke, what kind of questions or what kind of things should I be covering that I'm not covering? [00:14:20] Speaker A: No, you're doing great. I love it. I mean, this is a perfect situation for somebody who wants to have a beach house, is maybe familiar with the area that would, you know, be ideal. Although it is an area that is very Common to not be familiar with. But if you want to dip your toes in the sand with a drink in your hand, you know, it's that kind of place and brand new house with these Dr. Hardens and it's going to, I mean they have warranties, you know, it's like sometimes up to five years. I don't know if you know what it is down there, but they'll come and fix stuff for a number of years after the fact. It's a great, it's a great little deal. Like I said, I got two Dr. Hortons under contract and I think, I think it's a great idea, you know, for the right candidate. [00:15:04] Speaker B: Yes, yes. And then I want to talk about another area of this forgotten coast. It's technically Mexico beach, which is in the central time zone. But, but I still, I consider Mexico beach and Port St. Joe the Forgotten coast. So this is called Sugar Sand. So Sugar sand, and you can see just to the south here of this map is the City of Mexico beach where one of my sisters lives actually. And just to the north. So we're coming out of Tyndall Air Force Base right here. When you're driving over from Panama City and you're going on Highway 98 for quite a stretch, you drive through Tyndall Air Force Base. And just on the other side of Tyndall, this is all Tyndall. Right here is a new development called Sugar Sand. This is a baby Alice Beach. This is a baby 30A. The houses over here. You, you wouldn't buy the homes over here for cash flow yet. Okay. What you're going to buy these houses for is appreciation and that big tax write off and getting in on the ground floor of something like Alice Beach. And let me just tell you, in Alice beach over on 30A, you can buy, I don't know, a $5 million house that you can't even see the water from. Okay. And you're like five rows back. You know, it's. The beach access is, is kind of constrained on 30A. There's a lot of, you know, Instagram able pluses for 30A, but the prices are super, super high and this is the beginning of that. So if you're in the, you know, $2 million range for purchases 2 to 3, you know, not all of us are there. I understand. But if you are definitely take a look at this. I'm going to show you a couple of pictures. Let's see. Okay. Here's a few bullet points about it, about the community. It is very upscale. The lots Are large. There are some gulf facing properties but even so you're just a short walk. You're not even crossing a major street to get to the beach. Obviously golf cart accessibility and you know, just a real nice situation of the lots over there. Okay, here are some listings. Now I know you're going to be gasping at these prices because you know, most of my clients are not in this price range. But if you are, here are some examples. We've got five bedrooms, six bedroom properties and we're in the two to three million dollars range. Yes, they're probably even higher than this. This is just a screenshot but these houses are, you know, super close to the water. These are your super fancy 30A homes, but they've just been picked up and plopped down over here. And most, a lot of them have private pools. You definitely would, would, I mean I'm going to show you the community pool which is also amazing. But if you, if you have a property or you can afford a property with a private pool, I would always recommend a private pool. Over no pool here is their community pool though. And it right behind this or you know, if you were standing here looking at it right you would be the bay. So you are right there on the water. This is a fitness center and, and community pool. You can see the new construction. This picture is old. There's these houses are already completed now but you can see the houses that are on the water here as well. And when you're walking down the boardwalk, here you are, you're walking down this nice natural, you know, dunes, Panama City or Gulf coast dunes down to the water and you practically have a private beach right here. The beaches are public here. So when I say private, I mean it's private in a feel. But you know, on 30A the beaches are not public. So you can't just walk behind somebody's house and pitch your tent or put up your beach chairs. But you can in Mexico beach and Port St. Joe. Here's the beach again, very similar to over at Windmark. But the appreciation play and the luxury play is what this is here on Sugar sand. Here's an example of a home, you know, four levels, probably has an elevator. You've got two one car garages which you don't actually need for parking. So if you wanted to make a game room or if you wanted to store a golf cart here, you could do that. Here's one with a private pool. This is luxury. But this to me this style, I mean this is very Alice Beach. If you've Been to Alice beach or you've seen pictures, and if you don't know how to spell that, it's a L, Y, S, not a L, I, C, E. So Alice Beach. And these are probably farther apart than the houses at Alice beach, too, because they're so crammed together. But this is very luxury, and I just want people to be aware of it because one day, you know, I'm back and forth between Destin and Panama City beach and Mexico beach and Port St. Joe a couple times a week. And several months ago, about six months ago or maybe more, I'm driving down 98 and I just so happened to look over to the south and I see these little white house tips kind of peeking up, and I'm like, what is this about? So it's a gated community. Of course, I don't have the gate code. I'm just traveling somewhere else and the gate is open. So what do I do? I wheel in there and I. And the gate starts to close and I just floor it and I go into the community and I'm like, I'm in. Let me check it out. You know, so I'm driving all up and down and around and I'm like, oh, my God, when did they put this here? Like, I didn't even know it was here. So I took some video and I walked down into the. Into the community pool area in the community room, and I just start talking to people because that's what I do. What is this and what's it called? And. And how much of the houses and are there still lots available? And I do believe there's a couple of lots still, and there might be another phase. But right now, this is not a. There's not a plan to put, you know, 700 homes here. I mean, this is a nice quiet little area. But let me tell you, this is going to grow. If this is here, more is coming. And so if, you know, if you have the wherewithal to buy one of these homes and rent it out in the meantime and take that big tax break, in a couple of years, you're going to be able to 50% your money, double your money, you know, maybe even more than that, the appreciation is going to be bonkers here. So here's a few more points about it. Again, this is about luxury and privacy and access to the Gulf. You are a little bit farther to the north on the forgotten coast. So you are on the Gulf. You are not in the bay on this. On these properties, it definitely is that old Florida feel, very Unspoiled, you know, like nothing has been built here before. This is the first time anything has been built on this particular property. So it's low density Mexico beach in general. There are very few condos in Mexico beach and the ones that are here are low rise. There are not big, you know, 10, 12, 14, 20, 30 story condos like there are in PCB. That's a whole different appeal, different market, different pros and cons for everything. But these are larger properties here in Sugar Sand. Multiple families, you know, good family reunion, summer kind of things. Multiple families traveling, definitely higher income renters and people who like that privacy. So here's some expected revenue over here. Again, you know, design matters, right? Here's some, some revenue for four to five bedrooms, five to seven bedrooms, you might get 10% of purchase price in gross revenue, you might be a little bit short, but you're again, your appreciation and your cost segregation is going to come through for you on that. So if you've got time to wait a year or two until rents start coming up and you really know what you're doing. Obviously also design matters, management matters, I mean, you know, I would hope that nobody would go into these Sugar sand or any homes and put some cast off Facebook marketplace furniture in there, but you wouldn't believe what I've seen in some properties. But design matters, you know, what does it look like? How does it photograph? Do you want to spend time there? Light and white and bright with maybe some accents of teals and blues. That's what's going to sell. Nothing dark and heavy, you know, the things that you would expect there. [00:23:13] Speaker A: So, and we do hear, I know you hear this all the time. Not from clients or, you know, investors, et cetera, but from locals. 30A is not what it used to be. 30A is not what it used to be. Well, here it is. This is what 30A used to be, you know. [00:23:28] Speaker B: Right, right, exactly. And so, you know, I, I always, you know the saying, like you can have, you can have it fast, cheap or good. Pick two. Yeah, well, that's kind of what I say about houses. Like you can have a low price, you can have, you know, high rent or you can have, I don't know, a low hoa. Pick two. You can't have everything. You can't have, you know, an up and coming area and the sky. High rent. Not yet. You know, you got to get into the up and coming and then bide your time and improve your management and up your game and then you're going to have the rents that you need in, and then the area is going to be good and then the appreciation is going to be good and it's going to ripple out from there. You just can't have it all at one time. [00:24:09] Speaker A: Or you could have enough money that you don't really care if it rents that much. And that. That's where I want to be. January. [00:24:14] Speaker B: Totally. I'm here for that too. Exactly. And I do, you know, I have clients all along the spectrum. I have some people who are like, look, this is only about the numbers. I'm never coming here. This has to cash flow amount. And I'm like, great, we'll see what we can help you find. And then I have other people who are like, we just want a vacation home and we're going to rent it out every now and then and if it doesn't make money, it's fine. Or if it just barely covers the mortgage, that's fine, you know, or some people are going to be cash buyers and then they don't care at all about it. And if it makes money, then great. That's, you know, they wanted the tax break. So I have people all along the spectrum in there and we can find something for you no matter what. But I wanted to present both the Windmark beach, which is really affordable, up and coming area, already kind of got some infrastructure built out. And then contrast it with this Sugar sand, which is the next 30A. And you know, maybe we can do another podcast, Luke, in five years and we can come back and compare the prices of these houses and maybe we have a buyer who can say, yes, I quadrupled my money here because I listened to January and Luke, you know, in 2026 and I bought in Sugar sand back then. [00:25:19] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. You know, the beach is not going to be this. I'm a 38 guy, so I do want to defend it a little bit. You know, I've been brought here by this lovely woman that I happen to be married to and the beach is not going to be 38 beach, but again, quiet. So quiet. If you want to sit on or near the beach and do absolutely nothing and read a book in a hammock, that's what we're talking about here. [00:25:47] Speaker B: Yes. Very peaceful, very quiet, very private. A lot of people put a big premium on privacy and this is definitely that for sure. And again, same as with Windmark Beach. You can have a day trip into Appalachia, go to the brewery, go eat some oysters, go scalloping in St. Joe Bay, go out to The Cape. Check out downtown Port St. Joe, have some good dinner. Eat at Quatro Locos, my favorite little Mexican joint over there. It's just very slow. Slow. You gotta dial it back when you come down here, you know, if you're from the big city. Like, I spent 29 years in the city of Houston, and the last place I lived was downtown Houston. Whenever I would come home, because this is my home, whenever I would come home, I would have to calm myself down. Back it up. You know, we're quiet down here. We're, you know, the. The cashier is going to ask about your grandchild, children, or the person in front of you. You're gonna have to just stop tapping your foot and just. Just, you know, be on island time, as it were. This is. This is what we're talking about. [00:26:49] Speaker A: Yes. Oysters, she said, ladies and gentlemen. Oysters. Yeah, don't bother trying to spell it. [00:26:58] Speaker B: Yes, yes. Seafood. Big fishing area over here, too, if you like that. You know, boat trips and all that. These aren't the only two areas. Just because we mentioned. [00:27:07] Speaker A: No, it's just what we're talking about today. But let's look at some houses. Do you have any to look at? Pull up. I have some on a browser. [00:27:13] Speaker B: Stuff up. Yeah, I do want to talk a little bit about older homes here while you're doing that, because a lot of the properties on, in St. Joe and on the Cape are up on pilings. And if you are looking, I tell people to fall in love with the house built in the 2000s, because, you know, if you're looking at a home that's on wooden pilings that are 30 years old, insurance doesn't really love that. So concrete pilings are better. Houses built in the 2000s are better for insurance. There is a specific insurance zone, a cobra zone over on the Cape that you have to have special insurance about. But don't let that deter you. There's plenty of people financing property over here and getting insurance. It's just the condition of the house is very important. And the age of the house and the age of systems and roofs and pilings is very important. [00:28:08] Speaker A: Yes, I had one of those. Mine was a piling. Mine wasn't that old, though. [00:28:12] Speaker B: There's my little sleeping dog that I lost out on. [00:28:14] Speaker A: This one. Yeah, yeah. You were saying. [00:28:17] Speaker B: Yes. [00:28:18] Speaker A: What about this one here? It looks very similar. [00:28:20] Speaker B: Yes, it does. 106. Salt air, a little cheaper. [00:28:25] Speaker A: The other one was a little cheaper. Yeah, I like this one. We actually looked at this one earlier and it looks like It's a primary home. Looks like they're living in it based on there's like a, you know, a workspace in the bedroom and things. Things which we're seeing more of that. You notice a lot of these, this one's a three bedroom, but a lot of these new builds are four beds and not, you know, it's the work from home vibe, especially down here in Florida. [00:28:45] Speaker B: See, yes, the people I just sold a house to, a new construction in Windmark beach, they are going to live in it eventually. So they bought it with that in mind. But for the next, I don't know, four, five, seven years, they're going to rent it out, make money, you know, help pay that mortgage down and then they're going to retire here. So, and I, you know, I'm always talking to people when I see them. Oh, where are you from? And have you vacationed here before? And, and the last time I was in Windmark beach, people said, oh no, we live here now and we're like mayor of the town because we, you know, we made friends with all our neighbors and we have happy hour in the driveway at five o' clock every day, you know, so it's a good area to retire to too, if that's something on your mind. [00:29:22] Speaker A: Absolutely. 100%, you know, and you don't have to worry about the cold anymore. [00:29:27] Speaker B: That's right. Some of these homes are four bedroom, three baths and have a three, two and a one one. So you've got a mother in law suite right there. You might not want to rent them separately in high season. I'd probably rent them all together. But you know, in the wintertime, if you just want to come and, and inhabit the, the mother in law suite part of it, that's great. Or you know, if you want to rent to a snowbird, Nice and light and bright tray ceilings, all of that. [00:29:55] Speaker A: These price tags are, are phenomenal. You're not going to get anywhere near this on 38. It's going to be at least double. [00:30:01] Speaker B: And these are furnished. These are furnished. The, the ones that show furniture 98 of the time. It's going to come completely furnished. So everything you see is included in that price. Obviously new construction is brand new construction, but. And you're not getting any house anywhere close to 30A south of 98 for under $800,000. [00:30:23] Speaker A: We do have, yeah, we do actually have. Right, right. Not far from where I live is a brand new Dr. Horton neighborhood. And they've been sitting, sitting forever and they're in the like the nine hundreds to a million range. And they're, they're similar to these. They're two stories. A lot of them are five bedrooms. But for whatever reason, they're not selling. They're a little far from the beach. I do think those are pretty good deal though. We should probably talk about those on another call sometime. But they're golf cart, you know, properties, which is getting to be the norm. Most of the time you're going to do a rental down here, you're going to have a golf cart anyway. So you can see these price tags are really, you know, fairly reasonable. I mean, Brand New House, 429. If you're, if you're. Somebody lives in Ohio and sick of this snow, I mean, you can't beat it, you know, and rent it out until you move into it. Basically. [00:31:09] Speaker B: Garage. I mean, you don't need the garage for parking. That's another thing that I don't see too much over in Panama City beach and Destin is garages because, you know, beachland is expensive and we want to put heads in beds. So mostly on the lot, it's all house. So when you have a garage and you don't need it for parking. Hello, game room, pool table, hangout space, not to mention storing all your beach gear and things like that. [00:31:33] Speaker A: I love, I love a garage. I do. I'm a garage guy. I've got my, my garage is air conditioned, you know, and it's a nice little hang. And you're right, they're very rare on the beach. [00:31:45] Speaker B: This is an interesting house right here on 78 First street over there to the left. It's, it's a little bit older. I think it was built in 98. I had a client asking about it. But look at that lot. That is a big lot. And it's. I think it's two houses in one. It's the main house and then it's got like the little secondary unit there as well. And it's not very far from the beach. I haven't seen it in person, but I did have a client asking about it. But look how close that is to the beach. Look at that lot. I mean, come on. Pickleball court. Absolutely. Whatever you want. [00:32:17] Speaker A: Get your own compound. [00:32:19] Speaker B: Exactly. I mean, just because it's got a fence around it doesn't mean that's the property line for $700,000. Crazy. [00:32:26] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's got this mother in law suite situation over here. That's decently refreshed gray. So it's probably like a 2000 remodel, [00:32:45] Speaker B: Private pool. I mean really? [00:32:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:48] Speaker B: 2772 square feet of living space, two separate quarters. [00:32:53] Speaker A: Right. So you can put the mother in law back here or the kids or whoever and. [00:32:57] Speaker B: Right. [00:32:58] Speaker A: It's pretty cool. Yeah, Good location. [00:33:04] Speaker B: That's not a mark area, but it's close by. Same, same, same area. [00:33:09] Speaker A: Where's the Sugar sands on the map here? [00:33:11] Speaker B: North a little bit past Mexico Beach. [00:33:17] Speaker A: Keep going. [00:33:17] Speaker B: Yep, keep going. [00:33:18] Speaker A: We'll call it North Max right there. [00:33:20] Speaker B: Right, right in here. [00:33:22] Speaker A: North Max, yeah. [00:33:24] Speaker B: Now this is obviously from the pic. This, the aerial is from when they were just lots and it's mostly built out now. [00:33:31] Speaker A: Okay, so these are all pretty much done. [00:33:35] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [00:33:36] Speaker A: This is Sugar sand, but still plenty of them available. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Yes. Really incredible properties. [00:33:46] Speaker A: I'm seeing different listing agents as well. [00:33:49] Speaker B: Yeah, K. Haddock is a big listing agent over there, but. [00:33:53] Speaker A: Oh God. Berkshire on this one. And then these are going to be the waterfronts or the. [00:34:00] Speaker B: Yes, right, yeah. Click on one and let's look at the. [00:34:06] Speaker A: I'm always looking for the best deal. So let's see. It looks like three four, nine. Yeah, three four, nine. Brand new, two story. I like that. I currently live in a three story. It's hard to live in. It's been listed for almost a year. But that doesn't mean it may not even be done. [00:34:28] Speaker B: They probably listed it when they first started constructing it. But look at that. There's your water view. There's. They're not building between that house and the water. Right. And that's good for you because there's, that's protection. You know, you will still need some flood insurance but that's a long way for water to come up. So you know, and a decent sized pool, little garage for your golf cart or game room. [00:34:52] Speaker A: Super cute. Nice finishes. This is definitely not a. I hate to bring up that other builder again, but this is a little nicer than them. [00:34:59] Speaker B: Oh yeah, these are super custom homes. They, they do have a list of builders that they can refer if you are interested in a lot over here, if there are any lots left. And, but they, you know, obviously the builders build similarly so that they look like they all go together. But this is not a cookie cutter neighborhood at all. Mexico beach is the city for Windmark Beach. The city is Port St. Joe. So sugar sand is in central time zone and Windmark beach is in eastern time zone. [00:35:31] Speaker A: Yeah. These are beautiful. These are beautiful. All right, cool. [00:35:34] Speaker B: Really roomy. 2700 square feet. And at one point what that say a 1.15 acre lot, because they're talking about you own all the way down to the beach there. So one in 1.5 acres. That is a big beach lot, my friends. [00:35:48] Speaker A: Yep. [00:35:49] Speaker B: Try to buy a 1 acre beach lot anywhere else in the country. [00:35:53] Speaker A: See, it looks like this is the whole thing here. [00:35:55] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. [00:35:57] Speaker A: That's cool. [00:35:59] Speaker B: Super good. [00:36:00] Speaker A: Yeah, this is. This is cool. I like it. Now again, you got to remember, if you're not familiar with this area, you are in the middle of nowhere. [00:36:07] Speaker B: That's right. Peaceful nowhere. Beach nowhere. [00:36:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Sounds pretty awesome to me to be in the middle of nowhere in a beach house with. With brand new everything. 3,000 square foot waterfront. I love it. All right. [00:36:24] Speaker B: Just a short drive to a gas station or a small grocery store or some restaurant. So, you know, it's not. It's not Siberia, but it is, Right? It is peaceful, peaceful, beachy. Nowhere. [00:36:34] Speaker A: You can get to the Dollar General. [00:36:36] Speaker B: You can. And the gas station is not too far. [00:36:40] Speaker A: All right, well, I can shop all day, so maybe we better let. Let everybody go. And thank you for your time. And how do we find you? Love to do a deal with you. [00:36:51] Speaker B: Let's do [email protected]. make sure you get all those T's in there. Of course. And my phone number is 850-919-4330. I would love to. You can text me at that number, you can call me at that number or email me and we'll set up a call. [00:37:08] Speaker A: Yes. It's not short term or short term, right? [00:37:12] Speaker B: Short term. [00:37:14] Speaker A: Yeah. There's two of stuff. Yeah. All right, well, thank you so much. I'm [email protected] and we'll see you soon. Thank you. [00:37:21] Speaker B: Thank you.

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